and house speaker john boehner if they can get one done in the next couple of weeks. >> we know things change day to day, comparing the ton yesterday. we started the show with any and everyone saying whether they would budge or not from members of the house, the senate, and, of course, the president included, and then today you have this moment right now where the president is in northern virginia with an american family who wrote saying that they would be greatly impacted. in fact, their small business they want to start they feel would be impacted by this. there was a phone conversation last night between the president and speaker boehner. to your point about those in the media believing that the sky is falling, that maybe we should stop being chicken little that said the sky is falling? i don't know. can't keep up. >> when you bet on washington getting things done, there's always a heavy does of skepticism. we saw during the debt ceiling fight just a painful ordeal there. it is very hard to get things do done on capitol hill. it's always been that case, but there are things that are